Timeline for Does the BSD licence implicitly apply to derived work?
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| Nov 13, 2020 at 16:32 | comment | added | Bart van Ingen Schenau | Yes, that is correct. | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 15:33 | comment | added | MadHatter♦ | So is it correct to say that, if you come to me with code, and say only "this is under 3BSD", you mean to imply that no other conditions apply (to the best of your knowledge)? | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 14:51 | comment | added | Bart van Ingen Schenau | To restate in different terms, when I use the phrase "subject to the 3BSD license", then I mean that the condition imposed by the 3BSD license are part of the conditions you must obey to receive the rights grant, but the context of that phrase makes it clear if that is the full set of conditions or if there are other conditions as well. | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 14:45 | comment | added | Bart van Ingen Schenau | @MadHatter, perhaps my copying of your quotation marks is causing confusion now, so I will try to be careful with them. When I use the statement "subject to the 3BSD license" without further qualification, then that means that I am not aware of any additional requirements that also apply. If I am aware of such requirements, I qualify my statement that the code is "subject to 3BSD and X". I never intended to imply otherwise and I apologize if it could be understood that way. | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 14:25 | comment | added | MadHatter♦ | That's slightly different from what you said above, which was "when I say that content is distributed under 3BSD, I mean that "all conditions of 3BSD apply to the content" and there might be additional conditions coming from another license". Now you're saying you would use a phrase other than the simple "content is distributed under 3BSD" to describe such a situation. Forgive me for pressing, but which one is it? | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 13:07 | comment | added | Bart van Ingen Schenau | @MadHatter, assuming the "chunk of license text" is the actual text of the 3BSD license, then I am perfectly happy to say that that copy of the code is "subject to both the 3BSD license and Agreement X", where Agreement X is what stipulates the payment and not copying further. That is what I believe happens when a paid-for, closed-source project uses.some third-party BSD-licensed code. | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 11:49 | comment | added | MadHatter♦ | You're right, I only chose MIT because it was less text; happy to go with 3BSD. But are you really saying that if I offered anyone a copyright licence to my work provided they retained my copyright notices and a chunk of licence text, paid me a thousand Euros, and agreed never to give a copy to anyone else, that you'd happily describe the code as "being available under the 3BSD licence"? Do you think anyone who heard you say that would expect the actual offer to be as I have described it? | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 8:28 | comment | added | Bart van Ingen Schenau | @MadHatter, the MIT license is a case on its own, because it explicitly allows sub-licensing. If we ignore that aspect (or replace MIT with BSD in the first part of your comment), then I would consider the code to still be "under the MIT license", but with additional conditions applied as well. Thus when I say that content is distributed under 3BSD, I mean that "all conditions of 3BSD apply to the content" and there might be additional conditions coming from another license. | |
| Nov 13, 2020 at 8:12 | comment | added | MadHatter♦ |
Before I write an answer, I'd like to address a semantic issue. Suppose I edit a piece of code under MIT, and publish my version under the condition that the copyright notice and permission notice be included in all copies, plus the LICENCE file must be preserved (a new condition, not part of MIT). Is that content still, in your opinion, "under the MIT licence"? In other words, when you say some content is distributed under 3BSD, do you mean "all the conditions of 3BSD apply to this content", or "all the conditions of 3BSD and no others apply to this content"?
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| Nov 12, 2020 at 10:56 | history | answered | Bart van Ingen Schenau | CC BY-SA 4.0 |